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crazybanshee · Sep 16, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

I see on guildwiki that we can supposedly get 316 points on the master of the north title track so far, and that 101 of those points are for cartography. I'm at 315 points. I've done all the missions, quests, dungeons. I've been to every town and scraped every area (I have legendary cartographer so I know how to scrape) I still only have 315 points. Is guildwiki wrong (I mean, how can you get 101 cartography points, if it's 1 point per %?) or did I miss something? I've never used one of those map fog color things that people were talking about but this would tempt me to do it if I'm missing something.

sykoone · Sep 16, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Most people assume the extra 1 point is the leeway allowed in gaining 100%.

bloodvayne · Sep 16, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I personally think it's a bunch of photobucket fun, and atm it's not like there is anyway to prove it ISN'T, so... yeah

Meat Axe · Sep 16, 2007, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Yeah, I also only managed to get 100 points for cartography (although I'm nowhere near 315 or 316 points in the title, since I haven't done any of the dungeons except the snowman one and heart of the shiverpeaks). But even if it is true you can get that extra point, I doubt it'll matter. Once the max tier is determined, I really doubt that the leeway in the cartography title will really make any difference at all. Don't waste your time on it unless you have a specific reason.

TideSwayer · Sep 16, 2007, 06:22 AM // 06:22

So Anet goes to all the trouble of splitting up the older titles only to eventually put in one that is a smorgasbord of various EotN things?

Pretty consistent way of thinking. Not.

Lord Feathers · Sep 16, 2007, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Have 316 here myself so that number is possible.

TyrianFury · Sep 16, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

I have ended up with 315, wall hugged each area. It must be leeway since the only way to max the title track further is by completing the primary quests and dungeons in hardmode.

freekedoutfish · Sep 16, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Just another reason we should have had a seperate exploration title for GWEN!

crazybanshee · Sep 16, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

So Anet goes to all the trouble of splitting up the older titles only to eventually put in one that is a smorgasbord of various EotN things?

Pretty consistent way of thinking. Not.

Well, I can see why they did this. On the one hand I would be really annoyed if all of a sudden any legendary titles I had were no longer legendary, probably causing me to drop in kind of a big deal rank, and forcing everyone to buy gwen just to get back what they had before. I guess having it all lumped under 1 title was their compromise, making it all matter in some way but not taking away from people who have the titles already.

freekedoutfish · Sep 16, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by crazybanshee

Well, I can see why they did this. On the one hand I would be really annoyed if all of a sudden any legendary titles I had were no longer legendary, probably causing me to drop in kind of a big deal rank, and forcing everyone to buy gwen just to get back what they had before. I guess having it all lumped under 1 title was their compromise, making it all matter in some way but not taking away from people who have the titles already.

The thing is though, they wouldnt have needed to add GWEN to the legendary cartog title. The area is too small and easy to explore to do that!

All the had to do was add a seperate title called "Northern explorer" and problem solved!

I have LC and I wouldnt have complained at having a seperate GWEN exploration title. It would have made alot more sense then combing GWEN exploration with dungeon completion.

It goes agains the pre-existing system and you have done a % mark to work with in GWEN.

They should have just used a mission title for dungeons, like in previous campaigns and just counted when you have done them all!

I dont really see the need or reason for the GWEN title. its not even one that I can see anyone displaying with pride beacuse its so damn easy to get.

oljomo · Sep 16, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

The thing is though, they wouldnt have needed to add GWEN to the legendary cartog title. The area is too small and easy to explore to do that!

All the had to do was add a seperate title called "Northern explorer" and problem solved!

I have LC and I wouldnt have complained at having a seperate GWEN exploration title. It would have made alot more sense then combing GWEN exploration with dungeon completion.

It goes agains the pre-existing system and you have done a % mark to work with in GWEN.

They should have just used a mission title for dungeons, like in previous campaigns and just counted when you have done them all!

I dont really see the need or reason for the GWEN title. its not even one that I can see anyone displaying with pride beacuse its so damn easy to get.

Hi

you really copntradict yourself there.... noone would display it with pride cos it was so easy, but it should have its own title...

The reason its combined is cos it would be too easy otherwise.

Charge Thunder · Sep 17, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

People who have 315 or 316 mastery points... i now have 301 i still need to do 1 dungeon and i scraped every area but i am still missing 5 points then... is it possible the get on the big spikey thing in the middle of charrhomeland? i saw ik completely uncoverd on screenshots of the map but i tried every possible way to get there and i just cant!... plz help me

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 17, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Well there will obviously be more content before long anyway. (as 316 isnt max regardless.

Charge Thunder · Sep 17, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51

yeah i know but still

it satisfies me to get everything explored

Matrix · Sep 17, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Charge Thunder

People who have 315 or 316 mastery points... i now have 301 i still need to do 1 dungeon and i scraped every area but i am still missing 5 points then... is it possible the get on the big spikey thing in the middle of charrhomeland? i saw ik completely uncoverd on screenshots of the map but i tried every possible way to get there and i just cant!... plz help me

Seems like you are missing the quest.
5% is like a full area so check your quests..
You get 5 point for quests.

Charge Thunder · Sep 17, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Yeah well i explored a bit more now and i got 1 point more so now i am missing 4 i did all primary's and i do have all areas... so now i am scraping everything again...

but is there a way to get on the big spikey thing in the middle of charr homeland?

freekedoutfish · Sep 17, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

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Originally Posted by oljomo

Hi

you really copntradict yourself there.... noone would display it with pride cos it was so easy, but it should have its own title...

The reason its combined is cos it would be too easy otherwise.

If you want to talk about these titles + pride in having them + their usefullness....

...the main GWEN title is completely pointless because it doesnt really display anything to be proud of. It only shows that you have done dungeons atleast once or several times and explored really easy territory.

In theory you could replay one dungeon over and over again and max that title (from the way I understand it).

You can also argue the reputation titles are pointless, because their only of use inside GWEN. The norn and asura titles dont take effect anywhere except in their own territory, the Vanguard only works with char and the Drawf one against destroyers.

And even after that small snag, their mostly useless anyway! Its only really the drawf title which could be concidered critical, and thats only in glints challenge and maybe the odd dungeon or quest.

You have little contact with Drestroyers in GWEN for the drawf title to be of huge use! The char can be defeated easily without using the vangaurd title, the Norn extra health doesnt come in that handy, and Asuran extra energy add much (from an ele perspective).

The bottom line IMO is that none of the titles in GWEN (except maybe the Drawf one when fighting the few destroyers you meet), arent that important, critical or impressive!

If the reputation titles could be used outside of GWEN it would be a different story, but you cant!

Note: im sure alot of players will dictate that these reputation titles are vitally important and certain aspects need them, and thats their right. But IMO nothing in the game is critical upon those titles!

Anyhoo...

...so yes, none of the GWEN titles hold any real pride to them, but it wud be nice if they atleast all made sense. A seperate GWEN exploration and Dungeon completion title would have been nicer IMO.

Combing the exploration and dungeon completion just doesnt seem right to me. Id have much rather had seperate ones. Plus whats easier to read when exploring.. 301 points or 99%? 301 points means nothing because you dont know what the max is!

As an explorer, id rather have %s to read!

And a dungeon title might have been more fun to display, and maybe add an effect to it (no idea what).

bloodvayne · Sep 17, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Lord Feathers

Have 316 here myself so that number is possible.

Proof?

You can't give proof, as any image you post I will just say is photoshopped, and it's not like you can show me in-game. I explored everything, even after I got the 100 points I found more to explore, and it still didn't go up by that 101st point, so I don't believe that there are currently 316. Call it my loss if you want, but I don't believe it until there is solid proof.

Exoudeous · Sep 17, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

In theory you could replay one dungeon over and over again and max that title (from the way I understand it).

you only get points for completeing something once, which is why every other post in this topic says you can only get 315-316 points now

Charge Thunder · Sep 17, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

I got 304 now but i still need a dungeon so its 314 ectualy... sinds it was 304 i explored allot of pieces... making use of a texture mod i swore not 2 use but i realy couldn't find things to explore anymore i think if i do a bit more i wil get 305... but i still wonder if you can get on the big spike spine like thing in the middle of charr homeland... and what bothers me even more... WTH is it!